Guy Mason at 3:22pm on 03/04/11
Hey guys,
Thanks for your comments/questions. Thought it would be good to discuss. I’ll post first a response to Sam.
@Sam - Good questions. Jesus was all for people exploring evidence. I believe when it comes to the resurrection their are many sign posts that suggest it’s a historically reliable event. Jesus is not interested in blind faith. Most Christians (not all) have sought the evidence and found it takes more faith to deny the resurrection than believe. Here are some quick observations.
1. ‘The empty tomb’ (this was a fact recognised by the religious opponents to Jesus - and thus they came up with a theory that his body was stolen. Had they found the body they could have/would have presented it and ended Christianity - but they never did.
2. ‘the many witnesses’
In 1 Corinthians 15, it says that Jesus appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to as more than five hundred brothers, most of whom are still alive.
Paul (an eye witness) was inviting anyone with doubts to go and talk with other eye witnesses. That’s a bold thing to say if its not true.
In addition, what’s fascinating about the gospel accounts is that they each state that the first eyewitness to the resurrection were women. At the time women’s low social status meant that their testimony stood for nothing in a court of law. There was no possible advantage to the church to recount that all the first witness’ were women. It could have only undermined the credibility. The only possible explanation is that its true.
Now some might say, well maybe people saw Jesus, but maybe they were hallucinating?
This is problematic because hallucinating is a private, not a public experience. Whereas we’re told that Jesus appeared publicly to more than 500 people. In addition, Jesus appeared at various time, in various locations, hallucinations are generally restricted to individual times and places. And besides, it wasn’t as if people just saw Jesus….they spoke with Jesus, they spent time with Jesus, they ate with Jesus.
What about the idea, that it was merely a spirit….not a hullicnation but the spirit of Jesus…people have seen ghosts before, maybe Jesus came back as a ghost…
The problem with this idea, is that Jesus himself proved this wrong….when one of his disciples was doubting he came to him and said…put your hand in my side…feel me….feel the scars…
Jesus rose not merely spiritual, but also physically. He was given a new body. This by the way is another challenge for sceptics. The greeks considered all that was phycial to be evil, the goal of life was to escape the body…Jesus raising with a body is far more problematic…
3. ‘the tomb was not enshrined’ - in those days the tombs of holy men where memorialised. In the day of Jesus, no less than 50 were enshrined as places of worship. This was not the case with Jesus. This was because his followers knew he wasn’t there.
4. ‘their was no time for myth/folklore’ - the earliest creeds/scriptures speak of his resurrection.
5. ‘Incentive’ - we must consider the motive. If it was made up by the early church - for what end? The early church got no money, no fame. In most cases they were ridiculed, beaten, ostracised, and killed. If we deny the resurrection we have to say they did this knowing they were dying for a lie.
6. transformation - we must also note the transformation of the disciples. At Jesus death - almost all the disciples left Jesus. Peter denied him three times. How then do we account for the radical transformation three days later? Peter is not denying Jesus, but standing and proclaiming the resurrection.
In addition, this included unlikely converts. Among them was James …Jesus’ brother….who might of understandably had a few issues believing the idea that his big brother was God…. A lot of us have big brothers who think their God, but we know their not so we don’t worship them right?
Yet following the resurrection what happened? James believe he is God…he believes he has conquered sin and death…and he worshipped him…and became a Church pastor…
Furthermore, Jesus’ own mother, worshipped him as God…. if anyone were to know that Jesus was in fact a sinner a con artist, a liar, Mary a pios and holy women would have been the first to know…and yet she to was so convinced of the deity of her son…..that she worshiped him with all the other followers of the early church…
And if that were not enough….even some of Jesus’ most fiercest opponents…were convinced by his resurrection…Saul, a violent persecutor who made a living out of killing Christians…he despised Jesus…yet upon being confronted by the risen Lord Jesus….he was absolutely transformed…he went from being a murder of Christians…to one of the most committed Christian missionaries the world has ever seen…He has written almost half of the letters that appear in the NT, which consistently testifying that Jesus Christ is God…
BF Westcott says, ‘taking all these evidences together….it is not too much to say that there is no historical incident better or more variously supported than the resurrection of Jesus.’
There is much more to be said…..but thought I’d get the ball rolling.
(In addition to reading the New Testament - you might like to read ‘the case for Christ’ (Lee Strobel), or ‘The Dawkins Dellusion (McGrath), or The Reason for God (Tim Keller)